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Sandler Foundations - Session 10 - Learner Guide

Prospecting Behavior

The only part of a pipeline anybody controls is their own activity, how to work backwards from a goal to a number of conversations a day, and how to open a first call so the other person can still say no.

1Why this session is company-wide

This is your copy to keep. The gold Going deeper boxes go past what the session covers, for anyone who wants the fuller picture.

Prospecting is the work of starting conversations with people who could become clients. Two seats here do that as a job. Everybody else does it by accident, several times a month, and usually does not count it: a technician finishing a ticket and asking what else is slow, an intake seat noticing that three tickets this week came from the same department, a coordinator on the phone with a vendor who mentions a company down the road with no IT support. Those are contacts. This session is about planning them instead of hoping for them, and about being able to say who we are and what we fix in thirty seconds without sounding like a brochure.

This session assumes sessions 01 to 09: the seven steps of the system and the four outcomes that count as a result, how people decide whether to trust you, the agreement made at the start of a conversation about what it is for and what happens at the end, how to find what a problem is costing a client and how to ask about it, how to find out whether they are willing and able to invest, how to find out who decides and how, how to present and then keep a decision from coming apart afterwards, and the three parts of performance you can work on. This last one sits before all of them, because none of the seven steps happens until somebody starts a conversation.

The method here comes from the Sandler Foundations course. The examples, the figures and everything about how it applies here are ours. The chapter PDFs are in the reference folder of this program if you want the source.

2The only part you control

Take any opportunity you have ever worked and split it in two.

What is ours and what is theirs
We decideThey decide
How many conversations we startWhether they pick up
Who we start them withWhether there is money this quarter
How well we prepared for each oneWhether the owner's brother-in-law already does their IT
What we ask, and in what orderWhether they sign
Whether we did it on the day we saidWhen they get back to us

The left column is short and it is the whole of what can be managed. The rule is that activity is what gets planned and managed, and the numbers that come out of it are what gets watched. Nobody at this company is measured on an outcome that somebody else decides, and that is not a special rule for sales. An activity you control can be planned. An outcome somebody else decides cannot be planned, only watched.

The obvious objection is that the numbers still matter, and they do. Their job is different. If the activity was done in full and nothing came of it, the numbers are the only evidence that the plan was built on the wrong ratios, which is a problem with the plan rather than with the effort. That is useful. Managing somebody on a closed number instead is not, because the quickest way to improve a closed number is to stop counting conversations honestly.

3The cookbook: working backwards from a goal

A cookbook is the arithmetic that turns a goal into a number of conversations you have to have today. It runs backwards: start at the money, divide down to sales, then multiply up through the ratios until you reach contacts, then divide by working days.

Three words have to mean the same thing to everyone or the chain is worthless.

TermWhat countsWhat does not
ContactA conversation with a person who could become a client or send us oneA voicemail, an unanswered email, a list entry
Initial meetingThe first proper sit-down, in person or on a call that was bookedA chat at a table at an event
PresentationThe meeting where what we propose goes in front of the people who decideEmailing a proposal and waiting

Worked example

Every figure below is a model example, chosen so the arithmetic is visible. None of them is a Hermetic target and none of them came from our history. Monthly recurring revenue means the part of a client's fee that repeats every month, rather than a one-time project.

Model example. Figures are illustrative only.
#LineFigureWhere the figure comes from
ANew monthly recurring revenue to add each month$4,000The goal. Chosen for this example
BAverage new agreement$2,000 a monthChosen for this example
CSales needed each month2$4,000 divided by $2,000
DPresentations it takes to close one sale3Chosen for this example
EPresentations needed each month62 multiplied by 3
FInitial meetings it takes to earn one presentation2Chosen for this example
GInitial meetings needed each month126 multiplied by 2
HContacts it takes to get one initial meeting8Chosen for this example
IContacts needed each month9612 multiplied by 8
JWorking days in the month20Chosen for this example
KContacts needed each working day4.8, call it 596 divided by 20

The whole chain in one line: 2 sales, multiplied by 3 presentations, multiplied by 2 meetings, multiplied by 8 contacts, is 96 contacts a month, and 96 divided by 20 working days is 4.8 contacts a day.

Whether the daily number is realistic

This is the question the cookbook exists to force, and the only wrong answer is a vague one. Five real conversations every working day, on top of everything else you do, is either something you will do or it is not. Answer it now rather than in March.

If the answer is no, four things can change. Working harder is not one of them, because the 4.8 came out of arithmetic rather than out of effort, and the chain already assumes you do every contact in it.

What changesWhat happens to the daily number
The goalHalve the goal to $2,000 and $2,000 divided by $2,000 is 1 sale, so the chain becomes 1 multiplied by 3 multiplied by 2 multiplied by 8, which is 48 contacts a month, and 48 divided by 20 is 2.4 a day
The average agreementDouble it to $4,000 a month and $4,000 divided by $4,000 is 1 sale, giving the same 48 contacts a month and 2.4 a day, with the goal left intact
The ratiosCut contacts per meeting from 8 to 5, because the contacts are referrals rather than strangers, and 12 multiplied by 5 is 60 contacts a month, so 60 divided by 20 is 3 a day
The time allowedGive the goal two months instead of one and the monthly requirement halves with it

Your own cookbook, blank

Fill this in with your own figures and show the arithmetic
#LineYour figureHow to get it
ANew monthly recurring revenue to add each monthYour goal
BAverage new agreementFrom what we have actually signed
CSales needed each monthA divided by B
DPresentations to close one saleFrom Nutshell, or your best honest estimate marked as an estimate
EPresentations neededC multiplied by D
FInitial meetings to earn one presentationFrom Nutshell, or an honest estimate
GInitial meetings neededE multiplied by F
HContacts to get one initial meetingFrom Nutshell, or an honest estimate
IContacts needed each monthG multiplied by H
JWorking days in the monthCount them
KContacts needed each working dayI divided by J
LIs K realistic, yes or noAnswer it. If no, change A, B, D, F, H or the deadline
Going deeper

The ratios in lines D, F and H are the parts worth improving, because each one multiplies everything below it. Cutting contacts per meeting from 8 to 4 halves the daily number on its own. That is what a referral actually buys you, and it is why the first row of the activity plan in the next section is worth more per hour than the fourth. Ratios that come out of Nutshell history beat ratios somebody guessed, so the second time you build a cookbook it should be a better one.

4The activity plan

The cookbook says how many contacts. The plan says where they come from. A target with no named source is a wish, so every row carries three things: how often it happens, how many contacts it is expected to produce, and what has to be ready before it can start.

Model example, sized to reach the 96 contacts a month from section 3
ActivityFrequencyTarget contactsPreparation
Referral conversations
Asking a client, an accountant, an attorney or an insurance broker who else they know that fits
2 a week2 multiplied by 4 weeks, so 8Name the company type you are asking for before you ask. "Who else do you know" gets nothing. "Who else do you know running 40 people on an old server" gets a name
Existing-client conversations that surface new work
A business technology review, or BTR, the recurring account meeting with a client; a site visit; or the call at the end of a ticket
3 a week3 multiplied by 4 weeks, so 12Read the Hudu documentation and the open Syncro tickets for that client first, and go in with one thing you already know is out of date
Networking events
Chamber, industry associations, anything where our size of client is in the room
2 a month2 events at 8 contacts each, so 16Rehearse the thirty-second introduction out loud beforehand. Know who is going and pick three people to find
Calls to businesses that fit the profile
10 to 200 people, Richmond and the major Virginia cities outside Northern Virginia
2 blocks a week8 blocks at 6 contacts each, so 48The list built in Nutshell the day before, the time blocked on the calendar, and the five parts of the call in front of you
Reviving old opportunities that went quiet
Leads with no activity for ninety days or more
1 block a week4 blocks at 3 contacts each, so 12A saved Nutshell filter on last activity date, and one specific question written for each company before you dial
Total contacts for the month8 plus 12 plus 16 plus 48 plus 12, which is 96

The total is the point. If the rows add up to less than the cookbook asked for, the plan does not reach the goal and you know that today rather than at the end of the quarter. All the frequencies and counts above are model figures picked to reach 96, not targets anybody has been given.

Rows two and five are where most of the room contributes without making a single cold call. A technician who closes a ticket and asks what else is slow has had a contact. Somebody who spots three tickets from the same department and says so has found work that nobody was looking for. Those count, and they should be written down.

The preparation column is the one that gets left blank, and it is the one that decides whether any of this happens. An hour blocked with no list in front of you becomes email.

5Competitive advantage and the problem we solve

Before you can say anything useful in thirty seconds you have to answer three questions. Answer them in this order.

Worked from what is true about us, and nothing more
QuestionWorked answer
1. Why do clients buy this kind of service at all?Because email, files and the applications the business runs on have to work and have to be safe, and an organization of 10 to 200 people cannot keep that range of skills on staff. Because the questions being asked of them about security now arrive in writing, from insurers, from large clients, and from regulators, and somebody has to be able to answer them.
2. Why do they buy it from us?Twenty-two years in operation. Locally owned, with a team that is entirely local, so the person who answers is in Virginia. We cover Richmond and the major Virginia cities outside Northern Virginia. Organizations of 10 to 200 employees are the whole of what we do rather than a segment we also serve. We have healthcare clients, which are the environments where the rules are strictest. And we take on neglected IT, meaning environments that have been left alone long enough that nobody is sure what is in them.
3. What would they lose by not buying it from us?They keep an arrangement where no single company is accountable for the whole environment, so the parts that have been left alone stay that way. The date those parts get dealt with is then set by whatever breaks first, or by whoever sends the questionnaire they cannot answer.

The test that makes question two useful: if a competitor could say your sentence word for word, it is not an advantage. "Great service" and "we care about our clients" fail that test immediately. Every answer in the row above is checkable by somebody who wanted to check it, which is what makes it worth saying.

A draft problem statement

A problem statement is two or three sentences describing the situation our clients were in before they called us, said from their side rather than ours. Written from the three answers above:

Draft, for the room to argue with

"Most of the organizations we work with are between 10 and 200 people, and their IT had been left alone for years before they called us. They could not say with confidence what they had, who had access to it, or whether it would come back after a bad night. Usually somebody outside the company, an insurer, a large client or an auditor, had started asking questions in writing that they could not answer. What they wanted was one local company that would take the environment as it actually was and be accountable for it."

That is a draft. It is written to be argued with in the room and it is not approved marketing copy. The test is whether a client we already have would recognize themselves in it, and if the room thinks they would not, the sentence is wrong and the room should say so. Notice what the draft does not do: it never says the word we until the last sentence, and it makes no claim about what anybody else in this market does or does not do.

6The thirty-second introduction

Three parts, in this order, and nothing else. Sandler's name for it is the 30-second commercial.

  1. Who you are and where you are from. One sentence. Your name, Hermetic Networks, and where we are.
  2. A short version of the problem statement. Two or three sentences, about them rather than about us.
  3. One question that invites a real answer. It cannot be answerable with yes or no, and it cannot ask a stranger to agree that something is wrong with how they run their company.

Worked, using the draft statement from section 5:

Spoken, about thirty seconds

"My name is [name] and I am with Hermetic Networks, an IT company here in Richmond. We have been at it twenty-two years. Most of the organizations we work with are somewhere between 10 and 200 people and their IT had been left alone for a while before they called us. They could not say for certain what they had, who had access to it, or whether it would come back after a bad night, and somebody outside their company had started asking questions in writing that they could not answer. I have no idea whether any of that is close to where you are. How are you covering it at the moment?"

The last line does the work. "Are you happy with your current IT?" gets a yes and ends the call. "How are you covering it at the moment?" needs a sentence, and the sentence is the information you called for. The same is true of "who picks it up when that happens on a Friday night?"

Going deeper

Memorize it at first. Not so you can recite it, but so you stop having to build it while you are speaking and can listen instead. Once you have said it thirty times it stops sounding memorized, and until then a script delivered evenly is still better than an improvisation delivered nervously. The part to keep fixed is the question. The middle can shorten to one sentence when the person is busy.

7The low-pressure first call

The purpose of the structure is to take the pressure off the other person. Somebody who feels they cannot get off a call defends themselves, and the defenses are the brush-offs everybody recognizes: send me some information, we are all set, call me next quarter. Give them a way out at the start and the rest of the call is a conversation rather than an escape. Sandler's name for this is the no-pressure prospecting call.

Five parts, in order
PartWhat it is forWording to start from
1. OpeningSay who you are and hand them an easy exit in the first ten seconds"This is [name] with Hermetic Networks in Richmond. Did I catch you at a bad time?" If yes: "When would be a better time to try you for two minutes?"
2. The agreement about the callSay what the call is for and how long it runs, so they know what listening costs them. This is the same up-front contract from session 03, an agreement made at the start about purpose, length and what happens at the end, shrunk to one sentence"Would it be alright if I take two minutes to tell you why I called, and then you decide whether it is worth going any further? Are you comfortable with that?"
3. The thirty-second introductionGive them the problem statement and the question, then stop talkingSection 6, delivered as written, ending on the question
4. The closeAsk them to suggest the next step, so the invitation is theirs rather than yours"May I make a suggestion. Pick a day that suits you and have me come out so we can look at it properly. What do you think?"
5. The cancel questionSurface whatever would break the meeting now, while it can still be dealt with"Between now and Thursday, is there anything likely to come up that would make you need to cancel?"

Part four is worded that way on purpose. "I can do Tuesday at ten" makes the meeting yours, and something that is yours has to be defended. Asking them to pick the day makes it theirs, and people keep to a day they chose themselves.

Part five looks like it invites the cancellation. It does not. Whatever would cancel the meeting exists whether you ask or not, and the phone call is the only moment when anything can be done about it. The usual answers are ordinary: a quarter close that week, a planned absence, a person who has to be in the room and has not been invited yet. Each of those is solvable while you are still on the phone and none of them is solvable at eight in the morning on the day.

Either outcome of the call gets written into Nutshell before you dial the next number: a next step with a date on it, or the lead closed with the reason. A call that leaves no record did not happen as far as the plan in section 4 is concerned.

8Practice

  1. Answer the three competitive advantage questions from section 5 in your own words, from where you sit. If you are on site with clients, question two is the one you can answer best, because you hear what they say when they are comparing us with what they had.
  2. Write a thirty-second introduction in full: one line of who you are, two or three sentences of the problem, and one question that cannot be answered with yes or no. Write it out rather than planning to improvise it.
  3. Say it out loud, standing up, to somebody. Time it. If it runs past forty-five seconds, cut the middle rather than the question.
  4. If you carry a pipeline, fill the blank cookbook in section 3 with your own figures, show every multiplication and division, and answer line L honestly with a yes or a no.
  5. If you do not carry a pipeline, fill three rows of the activity plan in section 4 with activities you genuinely do, each with a frequency, a target count and the preparation named.
  6. Do one of the rows this week and write down what came of it.

9Check for understanding

  1. Two people have the same monthly target. One made 96 contacts last month and closed nothing. The other made 30 contacts and closed two. Whose activity do you manage, and what do you change?

  2. Someone works their cookbook and lands on 20 contacts a day, which they will not do. Name the four things that can change, and explain why working harder is not one of them.

  3. An activity plan row says "more calls to local businesses". Name the three things the row is missing and say what each one prevents.

  4. A hook question gets "no, we're fine, thanks" every time. What is wrong with the question, and what would you replace it with?

  5. The opening of the call hands the other person an easy way out in the first ten seconds. Why is that not giving the call away?

  6. The last part of the call asks whether anything might come up that would cause them to cancel. Why ask a question that appears to invite the cancellation?

10What happens now

There is no session 11. This was the last of the ten, and what you have now is the whole system in one piece.

The seven steps, in order: bonding and rapport, the up-front contract, pain, budget, decision, fulfillment, post-sell. Steps three, four and five are the qualification steps, and steps six and seven only happen once those three have real answers.

What the ten sessions covered: why a system exists at all and the four outcomes that count as a result, meaning a yes, a no, a referral, or a clear and well understood future, how people decide whether to trust the person in front of them, the agreement made at the start of a conversation about what it is for and what happens at the end, how to find what a problem is actually costing a client, the questions that get a real answer instead of a polite one, how to find out whether a client is willing and able to invest money, time and resources, how to find out who decides and how and by when, how to present what was asked for and then keep the decision from coming apart afterwards, the three parts of performance that can be worked on separately, and the activity that fills the top of the pipeline in the first place.

What happens next is that this gets run against real opportunities instead of examples. From Monday:

  • Every live opportunity in Nutshell is placed on one of the seven steps, using the earliest step that still has an unknown rather than the furthest one reached.
  • Every first meeting opens with an agreement about what the meeting is for, how long it runs and what happens at the end of it.
  • No proposal is written before pain, budget and decision have real answers written down.
  • Every meeting booked on a phone call ends with the question about what might cause a cancellation.
  • The activity that produces the next opportunity is planned in advance with a count against it, rather than being whatever is left over at the end of the week.

Keep this guide and the other nine. They are the reference, and the only part of any of it that is yours to control is in section 2.

11Glossary

Prospecting
The work of starting conversations with people who could become clients.
Contact
A conversation with a person who could become a client or send us one. A voicemail is not a contact.
Initial meeting
The first proper sit-down, in person or on a call that was booked.
Presentation
The meeting where what we propose goes in front of the people who decide.
Cookbook
The arithmetic that turns a goal into a number of conversations a day: goal, divided by average sale, multiplied up through the ratios, divided by working days.
Monthly recurring revenue
The part of a client's fee that repeats every month, as against one-time project work.
Activity plan
A table of prospecting activities, each with a frequency, a target number of contacts, and the preparation it needs, adding up to the number the cookbook asked for.
Competitive advantage
Something true about us that a competitor could not say word for word.
Problem statement
Two or three sentences describing the situation our clients were in before they called us, said from their side.
30-second commercial
Sandler's name for the thirty-second introduction: who you are, a short version of the problem statement, and one question that invites a real answer.
Hook question
The question at the end of the introduction. It cannot be answered with yes or no.
No-pressure prospecting call
Sandler's name for the five-part first call: opening, the agreement about the call, the thirty-second introduction, the close, and the cancel question.
Up-front contract
An agreement made before a conversation about what it is for, how long it runs, and what happens at the end. Covered in session 03.
BTR
Business technology review, the recurring account meeting with a client.

12Sources

  • Sandler Systems, Sandler Foundations, chapter 10, Prospecting Behavior: chapter PDF.
  • Sandler Systems, Sandler Foundations: full workbook PDF.

The cookbook, the 30-second commercial and the no-pressure prospecting call are Sandler's terms. Every figure in the worked cookbook and the activity plan is a model example chosen to make the arithmetic visible, the five prospecting activities are ours, and the competitive advantage answers and the draft problem statement are ours and are written to be argued with.